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Anonymous
02-11-2009, 10:17 AM
From an employee standpoint, which company is best?

Anonymous
02-13-2009, 06:49 AM
I worked for ADP in the past, and I can't recommend them. The goals quickly become unrealistic and your manager doesnt fight for you (at least mine didn't).

But you can get sales experience there. I moved on after only 6 mos with a significant increase in salary.

I have talked to some people who worked at Paychex and I think they may be a little better in terms of employers.

Anonymous
07-27-2009, 12:09 AM
wrong...paychex is sinking fast

Anonymous
08-02-2009, 05:42 PM
i've been with adp for 8 months now and have to say it would recommend it. selling payroll isn't the most glorious job in the world, but if you can sell you have the opportunity to make good money. there are multiple reps in my region who are easily clearing 100k a year, and exceeding the highest quotas. i've read so many people on here complaining about unattainable quotas, but if you can sell its not that bad.

It is a good company to work for, and full of incentives. trips, bonuses, etc..

Like everyone says though, its most likely a stepping stone for most people, but its definitely a good place to start.

Anonymous
08-12-2009, 10:49 PM
So, I've been at ADP for almost 6 years and I wouldn't work anywhere else. Generally, the short-sighted individuals are the ones who believe the quotas are unattainable. The reality is this...there was a point where I felt my quota was too high, but it forced me to work hard and that's the year I first qualified for President's Club. You gotta be strong enough to step up to the plate and swing the bat. If you are weak, then the quotas are truly unattainable. As far as money is concerned...I crossed the $100K mark when I was 25 years old. I can't think of many companies where that is possible. It's not easy, but it is certainly a reality if you push yourself.

Anonymous
08-19-2009, 04:00 PM
The reality is this...there was a point where I felt my quota was too high, but it forced me to work hard and that's the year I first qualified for President's Club. You gotta be strong enough to step up to the plate and swing the bat. If you are weak, then the quotas are truly unattainable. As far as money is concerned...I crossed the $100K mark when I was 25 years old. I can't think of many companies where that is possible. It's not easy, but it is certainly a reality if you push yourself.

LOL. What a lie. "work hard" "be strong" = 60 70 80 hr weeks away from family and friends with an unsupportive management staff.

Anonymous
08-26-2009, 09:02 PM
I worked at both places. I was successful at both places. Paychex was definitely a more enjoyable work environment. However, while the stress is bigger at ADP, the comp plan is more rewarding for top performers.

Anonymous
03-02-2010, 06:45 PM
paychex if you work in small business. they have solid relationships with CPA's and the deals they refer are slam dunk done deals. Plus more small business accounts know who paychex is unlike ADP so you will get more incoming calls in your area plus referrals. ADP has a contract with Chase and pays their bankers to find deals for them. You can get some good leads and get some bad ones from Chase and also they will shop you vs a cpa referral. the quotas at adp are realistic. I say if you cannot hit them, than you need to get out of sales. The SDM quotas are higher but still attainable. I made president's club each year with ADP. Left to make more money, but I look back I could have easily stayed. Problem with ADP sbs, you have to make some cold calls. hated that shit.

As for as the major side, ADP. hands down. They championed the major and national accout platform for employer services. If you are in a good territory, you are upgrading your existing account base with more products and make great money just doing that. Paychex has a shit major platform imo. However, both hide the fact that they have a oldschool mainframe system. The hide with an html user interface. 401K is probably a push, but ADP has a sound 401k product. Benefits side, Paychex.

Anonymous
03-02-2010, 07:01 PM
That is good info. Thanks.

Anonymous
05-29-2011, 09:40 PM
I am in my 3rd year with ADP so let me give an updated 2011 view. Amazing company to work for! Can't say enough about my manager and the benefits surpass most any company...pension on top of 401k, stock options, salary with uncapped commissions, bonuses and the most awesome vacations!! I have people in my office that have worked for Paychex and came over to ADP after seeing the new RUN system in SBS. There isn't anything else that compares. I have clients who come from Paychex every week and they are all blown away by what ADP has to offer.

If you have an opportunity to come aboard, I would take it seriously...

Anonymous
06-09-2011, 12:17 PM
From an employee standpoint, which company is best?

adp

adp in the Netherlands Rules, espacaly major accounts I rules

Anonymous
07-18-2011, 11:11 AM
I have iterviewed with both companies but worked for neither, I actually worked for Ceridian. It boils down to this: you need to go with our gut on the best situation for you. ADP and Paychex both have great name recognition in very different markets, and ADP specifically has a tremendous door-opening name. You'll work very hard at both places to succeed. What is important to you is the variance in management quality from location to location; be sure to understand how the manager works and how you will have to work for him/her. I made that mistake at Ceridian - did not do enough homework on my manager before taking the job, and he was the worst boss I ever had. Never relocated even though they paid him to, lied about his whereabouts, was covered for by his boss, etc. The working conditions were horrible - the building froze in the winter and boiled in summer, and had not been touched in over ten years; it was embarrassing. He was a total micromanager and was terible on appointments. It took over a year and a half yo get rid of him. Despite all the issues at that company I would have been OK if I had a better idea of who I was working for.

Anonymous
08-15-2011, 08:16 PM
I have been in sales for 3 years, and am in my 3rd month with ADP. Hands down blows Paychex out of the water. If I find a potential client that already outsources payroll and uses paychex, its almost guranteed that they will make the switch. The RUN system is the best online platform out, and generally speaking ADP offers a broader range of services that are custom fit for small business, at a very competitive price. Although I do respect Paychex as a competitor, without question, ADP is the better choice for small business. I brought three Paychex companies on board just last week for that exact reason.

Anonymous
08-16-2011, 02:44 PM
I would be embarassed to say that I worked for ADP. How embarassing.

Anonymous
10-21-2011, 09:42 AM
As an employee who has worked for firms that used ADP and Paychex, I wholeheartedly prefer ADP. Their interface is much easier to work with and looking up historical paystubs on their site is simple. Trying to navigate the Paychex website is impossible and the 401k information is inaccessible. Also, Paychex doesn't play nicely with mint and other personal finance programs which is a huge pain. From the standpoint of an employee who does all her banking online, I can't think of a single benefit of Paychex.

Anonymous
01-18-2012, 07:14 PM
We currently use Paychex for our business payroll. It works fine. Not a single issue to complain about.

On the other hand, ADP stole my first born baby and punched a kitten. I would never use a service that punches kittens. And I'm a pretty open minded guy.

Anonymous
04-18-2012, 05:25 PM
We currently use Paychex for our business payroll. It works fine. Not a single issue to complain about.

On the other hand, ADP stole my first born baby and punched a kitten. I would never use a service that punches kittens. And I'm a pretty open minded guy.



This board has to be full of the most ignorant people ever, but that is expected. Bottom line is that if you can do sales you can make a lot of money at each. I've been with ADP for 7 years in SBS and moved to management. They are both good companies and can get you pretty much into any other sales job if you want. The people that leave under 2 years should not be in an outside sales job. Face the facts that outside sales is not for you. You are not willing to do what it takes so do something else. They are always bitter and complain but the truth is you cant do it. whoever said you have to work 60-80hrs is a clown. Grow up you pawn, i work 20-40 hours a week and so do most people. If you have referring relationships the job runs itself. If all you do is prospect for than 14 months you have done a horrible job and should leave.

Anonymous
05-03-2012, 08:52 PM
I never post things, but this caught my attention:

I've worked for ADP 11 years now. 8 President's Clubs, 2 Board of Directors. I run a region and all you have to do to compare the companies is compare the posts in this thread. Anybody who's "pro Paychex" bashes ADP verbally. That's their sales approach in the field and that's clearly their approach in these forums. I've had friends that worked at Paychex who told me they're trained to negatively sell against ADP, meaning they focus on telling you how BAD ADP is instead of how good they are. It makes deals all that much easier closing when you go head to head with them because clients hate that approach. I've worked in 4 regions, for 6 different managers, each vastly different styles. But I stay because of the co. support, the people and the fact that ADP treats it's sales people unlike any I've seen. Everybody has a different experience and everybody's skill set is different. If you have to work 80 hours/week in ANY sales position, you have issues, or you're #1 in the company. This is a solid 40 hr work week and could be much less depending on learning curve and natural talent. If you're looking @ ADP, you can't go wrong in California, I know all the leaders and they're all top notch. I would assume this holds true across the country. You can also (with performance) be promoted VERY quickly to management or an upmarket sell.

Hope this helps, good luck